"Turn up" navigation tag -- replace with "Turn to"

[David.Byrne@…]

I'm not sure that "Turn up" would be the normally used term for navigating to a new calendar page. "Turn to" would be more appropriate.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

Ok, thanks for this suggestion, mentioned in #7226 before.

Since this is relevant for 0.12 branch as well, I'd like to have at least one more vote for 'Turn to' or other suggestions, before I change this one, touching corresponding msgid in message catalogs for 0.12 too.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

(forgot to take responsibility for this issue)

[Ryan J Ollos]

When is this tooltip displayed? I'm not seeing it. On the navigation icons I see the month that will be navigated to if the arrow is selected.

[David Byrne]

I originally submitted this with release 0.11 marked, but I'm using 0.12. The tooltip appears when you hover over the navigation arrows. With the current month displayed, mine shows "Turn up June 2009", "Turn up March 2010", "Turn up May 2010", "Turn up July 2010", "Turn up September 2010", and "Turn up June 2011" in order from left to right.

[Ryan J Ollos]

In that case, I think that Turn to is better, but I actually prefer the behaviour on the 0.11 branch, which is to just show the month in the tooltip.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

I'm in the process of doing a new, still backwards compatible concept of attributes for WikiTicketCalendar, since the old schema does not scale well with growing number of options.

How about creating a switch for slimtooltip=True to get old minimal tooltips back? Or should it become default again?

Thanks for providing your feedback. On English wording there seems to be not much dispute against "Turn to", so most likely I'll take it then. But it's not too late by now. This poll will stay open until I commit a version, that closes the issue.

[Jay]

Having dealt with translations before in other applications. I would make this behavior ONLY show the month the action would result in showing. Then you only have to translate the Months, and not the grammar for "turn to", "Change to", "Go to" etc.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

Well, translation of month names is dealt with by proper locale selection. I just wanted to build nicer, more user friendly tooltips, but as there are already two votes for the old behavior with the months name and year this doesn't look like a bright idea anymore. Reverting to old style tooltips will obsolete the whole discussion. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

[8201] does revert the disputed label text extension in trunk back to old style: month + year.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

[8263] propagated this change to 0.12 branch now.

I'll keep this ticket open another couple of weeks to still give a chance for feedback.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

Old "just the month's name" tooltips are back and included in latest versions of WikiTicketCalendarMacro v0.8.6 (branch 0.11/0.12_en-only) and v1.2.1 (0.12_intl.) with changesets [8314] and [8315] respectively.

Thanks for the response so far, that made me think and revert my changes in the first place. I've to admit, that the current/old style is slick and lean and simple, all in all a good thing. :-)

As this is available to all users now, I'll set a final 1 months period for feedback. If no serious critics raised before 04-Sep-2010, I'll close this ticket still being a reminder for a number of weeks now.

[Steffen Hoffmann]

Ok, still no one complaining. Let's take this as a sign of agreement.